Letters and e-mail on MILAM Genealogy

MILAM LETTERS E-MAIL DATED 20 APRIL 1998 This page contains edited letters on Milam Family Research. I have deleted all my incorrect assumptions so as not to confuse you. I have left all that is of importance in your MILAM Research such as CONTACTS and MILAM FAMILY HISTORY and SOURCES. These letters are in Chronological order. If you have the feature, hold down the control key and the "F" key at the same time and type in the name you are searching in the box and press find, that will make up for the fact that this large has no index.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO 1997 MILAM E-MAIL

CLICK HERE TO GO TO E-MAIL DATED JAN through MAR 1998

CLICK HERE TO GO TO LETTERS DATED 1-20 April 1998

CLICK HERE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THE MILAM ROOTS MAILING LIST. It is Free!

MILAM E-MAIL DATED 20 APRIL 1998

Subject:[MILAM-L] survey
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 02:43:06 EDT
From: AU HALO <AUHALO@aol.com>
To: Milam-l@rootsweb.com

Hi,

I was born in Kentucky and I now reside in Florida.

Marsha

Subject:[MILAM-L] Gary Milam Family Survey
Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 20:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
Resent-From: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998
From: Michael Milam <milam@earthlink.net> (the creator of this web site)
To: "MILAM-L@rootsweb.com" <MILAM-L@rootsweb.com>

1-Gary Milam born Rexburg Idaho son of Caton Lucius and Elsie Milam

1-Gayle his wife born Los Angeles

.....2-Mike oldest son, Me, born Provo UT married Deb born Baker Oregon
...........3-Son Evrhet Michael born CA
...........3-Son Noah Jaysen born CA
...........3-Daughter Adelaide LaWren (Wren) born CA
...........3-Daughter Sierra Alisabeth born CA

.....2-Mary born Glendale CA married Ron Messer born Burbank CA
..........3-Son Wesley Gary Messer born UT
..........3-Son Andrew Ronald Messer born UT

.....2-Matt born Glendale CA

.....2-Melissa born Glendale CA married to Craig Wilson born Glendale CA
...........3-Son Christopher Evan Wilson bornCA
...........3-Daughter Molly Gayle Wilson born CA
...........3-Son Kirk James Wilson born CA

.....2-Melanie born Glendale CA

All reside in CA except Ron and Mary Messer who live in UT

We are all here together tonight celebrating my oldest son Rhet's birthday.

All the best to all of you

Mike Milam and family

Subject:[MILAM-L] Gary Milam Pedigree
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998
From: Michael Milam <milam@earthlink.net>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Good Day to all. I hope you do have great joy while it is still called "today."

Last night during the birthday party, we covered the living. Now here is the Gary Milam ancestry.

1- Gary Milam born in Rexburg Idaho, is the son of Caton Lucius Milam and his wife Elsie.

.....2- Caton Lucius Milam born SLC Ut is the son of Harvey A. Milam and Laura Love

..........3- Harvey A. Milam born SLC UT is the son of George Bennett Milam and Caroline Percinda Tibbetts, the
daughter of John Harvey Tibbetts

..........George Bennett Milam’s second wife was Elenor S born 1861 in England their children include George
W. born 1872, Francis J. born 1874, Oscar B. born 1876, Elenor born 1878 and Sarah born March 1880. [if
you are descended from Elenor and George please contact me]

...............4-George Bennett is born in Montrose Iowa to William Milam and Elizabeth Case Milam soon after their
expulsion from Nauvoo Illinois. George's surviving siblings are Joseph S who married Cecile and had a son
James; Frank A (who lived in Westminster CA 1900), Mary Emma who married Arhcibald Hill and Martha Ellen.
[if you are descended from George's siblings, please contact me]

....................5- William Milam born in Spencer Ky 18 March 1799 is the son of George Milam and Jane Crafton
who married in Charlotte County VA

.........................6- George Milam is the son of William Milam and Margaret who both died in his youth. William
fought and died in the 4th Virginia Regiment in the war of the Revolution under Captain Brents. George's
siblings William and Jeanne were adopted by Michael Gill.

..............................7- William is assumed to be the son of John Milam of Halifax VA.

All the best to all of you

Mike Milam

Subject:[MILAM-L] Lewis Milam
Resent-Date:on, 20 Apr 1998 09:46:34 -0700 (PDT)
Resent-From: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
Date:on, 20 Apr 1998 12:45:03 -0400
From: Katrina Wills <e9618200@citynet.net>
To:Milam-L@rootsweb.com

Marsha,
In my information, Lewis Milam was the son of Lewis and Mary (Holt) Milam. Born circa 1796 in Virginia. He married N.----, who was born in Tennessee. They settled in Kentucky by 1833.

Hope this is of some help for you.

Katrina

Subject: Re: Milum/Milam apple
Date:Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:17:30 -0400
From:"Stewart D. MacInnis" <macinnis@vt.edu>
To:LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>

Mr. Milam,

Here is the reply of our tree fruit specialist:

I looked through my books on apple varieties and I found 'Red Milam'. I never heard of this and the description of the variety simply says that it has some disease resistance. it can supposedly be purchased from the following nurseries:

Greenmantle Nursery, 3010 Ettersburg Rd., Garberville, CA 95440. Lawson's Nursery, Rt. 1, Box 473, Yellow Creek Rd., Ball Ground, GA 30107 Long Hungry Creek Nursery, Red Boiling Springs, TN 37150

I hope this helps!

Rich Marini
Extension Tree Fruit Specialist

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

>Hello,
>I am trying to locate the Milum or Milam apple. It is a native Virginia variety (poss. Madison County). Do you >have any information on it? Do know where I can locate it, or its seed or graflings? Thank you for any help you
>can provide, Oliver Milam.

Stewart MacInnis
Information Officer, College of Agriculture and Life Sciences
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-5863 FAX (540) 231-4163
E-Mail macinnis@vt.edu

Subject: [MILAM-L] hi
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:59:25 EDT
From: DocTrek01 <DocTrek01@aol.com>
To:MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

I got Digests 8 and 9, but not 10. Please send again. Re: the book Eileen Fraser's mother wrote, What is it called and how can I order one? Please give specifics. Re: Birth Place. I was born in Miami, FL and currently reside in Chandler, AZ. Re: Military Milams, My dad was in WW2 and the Korean War. He was a pilot for the Navy, flew Hellcats, Wildcats,etc, but his favorite was the Corsair. He also was a Hurricain Hunter for the Navy. He is Willie Noble Milam, son of Joseph Walter, son of Joseph William, son of Pleaseant Coleman, son of Coleman, son of Thomas, son of John, son of Samuel.

Subject: [MILAM-L] Re: MILAM-D Digest V98 #11
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:15:41 PDT
From:"Nancy Milam" <milnan@hotmail.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

To Oliver:

1. Born: OH 2. Reside: IN

To anyone:

Still no word on a Sylvester Milam who lived around Sissonville, WV? He is my grandfather, and is as far back as I know my Milam roots to go.

Nancy

Subject:[MILAM-L] Milam line
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:03:24 EDT
From: Cherub0112 <Cherub0112@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

My name is Raschel Milam. I was born in Harrison, AR. I have a family line for John Milam, circa 1725 in Culpepper Co. Virginia. It goes on to show Bartlett Milam, Sr, 1750 in Halifax Co. Virginia - John Page Milam, 1772 in Halifax Co. Virginia - Leander Jones Milam, 1825 in Laurens Dist. South Carolina - James Lafayette Milam, 1853 in Laurens Dist. South Carolina - John Milam, 1887 in Meriweather Co. Georgia. I have listings of each of these men with their spouses and their children.

I am listing below the information given to me by my aunt Maida Milam.

The lineage of John Milam

1) John Milam b. 1725 Culpepper Co. VA. - d. 1788 Halifax Co. VA. - m. 1745 to Judith Bartlett Cole b. 1730 d. 1775 Halifax Co. VA. Children of John and Judith: 1) Samuel Milam b. 1747 d. N/A 2)Bartlett Milam b. 1750 d. 1823 3) James Milam b. 1751 d. N/A 4) Benjamin Milam b. 1752 d. N/A 5) John Milam Jr. b. 1753 d. 1638 6) Thomas Milam b. 1757 d. N/A 7) Madison Milam b. 1758 d. N/A

2) Bartlett Milam Sr. b. 1750 Halifax Co, VA - d. 1823 Laurens Co. South Carolina - m. 1770 to Elizabeth Gwinn b. 1750 Halifax Co, VA d. 1823 Laurens Co. SC. Children of Bartlett and Elizabeth: 1) John Page Milam b. 1772 d. 1857 m. Sarah Fuller 2) William Milam b. 1777 d. 1844 m. Mary Pasley 3) Bartlett Milam Jr. b. 1780 d. 1820 m. Jane Harlan 4) Riley Milam b. 1779 d. N/A m. Rachael Simms 5) Benjamin Milam b. 1784 d. 1858 m. Jennie McCrary 6) Thomas Milam b. 1785 d. 1848 m. Rachael Bell Janes 7) Ferrill Milam b. 1786 d. 1869
never married 8) Nancy Milam b. 1796 d. 1888 never married 9) Elizabeth Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A 10) Catherine Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A

3) John Page Milam b. 1772 Halifax Co. Virginia d. 15 April, 1857 Laurens Dist. South Carolina m. 1779 to Sarah Allen Fuller b. 1783 North Carolina d. 1847 Laurens Dist. South Carolina. Children of John and Sarah: 1) Bartlett Milam b. 1800 d. 1878 m. Elizabeth Ball 2) Isham Milam b.1801 d. 1863 m. Mary Milam 3) William Milam b. 1803 d. 1883 m. Sarah Milam 4) Elizabeth Milam b. 1805 d. 1848 m. Francis Braddock 5) Martha Milam b. 1808 d. 1857 m. Thomas Bryson 6) Mary Milam b. 1810 d. 1863 m. Haupton Bryson 7) Catherine Milam b. 1812 d. 1834 m. Jefferson May 8) Jane Milam b. 1813 d. 1857 m. Samuel Bryson 9) Nancy Milam b. 1816 d. 1902 m. Wesley Bryson 10) Henry Milam b. 1818 d. 1897 m. 1- Jane Brown 2- Elizabeth Bolt 11) John Milam b. 1819 d. N/A m. Josephine Evans 12) Milton Milam b. 1820 d. N/A m. Martha Workman 13) Ferrill Milam b. 1823 d. N/A m. Dorothy Walker 14) Leander Milam b. 1825 d. 1902 m. Mary Jane Workman

4) Leander Jones Milam b. 1825 Laurens Dist. South Carolina d. 1902 Meriweather Co. Georgia m. 1845 to Mary Jane Workman b. 1827 Laurens Dist. SC d. 1888 Meriweather Co, Georgia. Children of Leander and Mary: 1) Mary A. Milam b. 1848 d. N/A m. N/A 2) James L. Milam b. 1853 d. 1893 m. N/A 3) Sarah J. Milam b. 1854 d. N/A m. N/A 4) Robert H. Milam b. 1856 d. N/A m. N/A 5) Irma C. Milam b. 1857 d. N/A m. N/A 6) Emily A. Milam b. 1859 d. N/A m. N/A

5) James Lafayette Milam b. 1853 Laurens Dist. South Carolina d. 1893 Montgomery Co. Arkansas m. 1870 Meriweather Co, Georgia to Dora Elizabeth Johnson b. 1854 Meriweather Co. GA d. 1932 Montgomery Co. AR. Children of James and Dora: 1) Otis Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A 2) Benjamin E. Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A 3) Erbert Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A 4) Hilda Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A 5) Isabella Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A 6) John Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A 7) Louie Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A

6) John Milam b. 1887 Meriweather Co. Georgia d. 1963 Boone Co. Arkansas m. 1-Obie Robbins 2- Flavia Sanderson 3- Nellie Phillips        Children of John and Obie: 1) Sadie Milam b. 1908 d. died as infant 2)
Maida Milam b. 1910 d. N/A m. Carl Jaggers 3) Jessie H. Milam b. 1913 d. 1949 m. Charles Conrad 4) Robbins L. Milam b. 1915 d. 1983 m. Jackie Fielder 5) John Harold Milam b. 1917 d. 1969 m. Mildred Singleton
      Children of John and Flavia: 1) Leslie Phillip Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. N/A
      Children of John and Nellie: 1) Garner Fraser Milam b. N/A d. N/A m. Delores Lair b. 1958 d. N/A

Subject: [MILAM-L] Re: MILAM-D Digest V98 #11
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:51:35 EDT
From: CHUCKMILAM <CHUCKMILAM@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

1. IN (Sullivan County) 2.CA (San Jose)
Chuck Milam

Subject: Re: [MILAM-L] Milam overview revisited
Date:Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:07:28 -0700
From: "Robert M. Wilbanks IV" <rmwiv@getnet.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
References: 1

LonzoMilam wrote:

> The earliest known Milams in America are two brothers, John and Humphrey, who arrived in the Boston, >Mass. area, from England, in the 1630's. I have seen spellings of their name as Milam, Mylem, Milem, and >Mileham. There are ample records (baptismal, church, land, etc.) of them and their families in the Boston >area. Humphrey had only daughters and thus, his descendants are essentially unknown. John had male and >female children, and his Milam
>
> descendants are better known from wills and other official records. However, John's tree either ended about >1700 (no male heirs), or there is a missing link that occurs about that time. This is the source of one of the
> great controversies in Milam genealogy: whether the brothers, John and Thomas Milam, who are found in >Virginia in the early 1700's, are descendants of John of Boston. Whether there is a link there, is still unclear >and unproved at this time, although some new evidence regarding John of Boston seems to bring us nearer to >confirming a link between the Boston Milams and the Virginia Milams.
>
> There is also a pool of older, but sound, research that says the Virginia Milams were a different family >altogether. This school of thought says that a Samuel Milam came to Virginia, from England, in early 1700's.
> Supposedly, he had three sons, John, Thomas, and Archibald. This John and Thomas are the same John and >Thomas that became known as the Virginia Milams. However, one of the best known Milam researchers in >the US today, claims he has "proved" that Archibald did not exist. This is despite the fact that there is
> evidence of Archibald in at least one "official" record. This is the source of the second great controversy in >Milam genealogy. It is yet to be proved either way, conclusively, in my opinion.

Remember that the records show that Samuel Mileham married Martha Gardner on September 8, 1724 in Christ Church Parish, Lancaster County, Virginia; in the Chesapeake Bay part of Virginia. John and Thomas are the only other Milams found in the Virginia records prior to the 1760s; no Archibald is found in the Virginia records in the 1700s or early 1800s.

Thomas is first found in Orange County, Virginia, on the western frontier, in 1737, just 13 years after Samuel married Martha Gardner on the coast. Thomas appears in court when a William Smith brought suit against Thomas for 400 pounds of tobacco. Thomas is clearly not a 13 year old child, and in fact appears to be a well established adult. In fact, by law a male could not appear in court, or conduct any form of business, if he was not of the age of 21 or more. Thus, this would place Thomas as born no later than 1716.

Though we don't find John until 1757 when he sold his interest in land in Louisa County, which borders Culpeper County where Thomas was living at this same time; Louisa and Culpeper counties were formed from Orange
County. As a Grace Mylam married Richard Cholmonldly in 1756 in Goochland County, which borders Louisa County, and as John Milam and the Cholmonldlys settled in Halifax County as early as 1763, which borders
Bedford County where Thomas settles at the same time. The proven children of John interact with Grace Cholmonldly frequently, thus indicating that there is a close relationship with Grace. I believe that she was the daughter of John. Even if she married at the young age of 16, should would have been born in 1740, and even if John married at the young age of 16 (which is unlikely) he would thus have been born in 1724.

Thus we can substantially state that John and Thomas were most likely brothers because of their close and constant proximity to each other, and that they were most likely not sons of Samuel Mileham because of
their being born prior to his marriage, and because they first appear out on the distant frontier of Virginia, as opposed to close proximity to Samuel. In fact, they are in closer proximity to where Joseph Milam is said to have settled when he came to the western frontier of Virginia from Boston, where in the will of his father who refers to "... my son Joseph Maylem if he be alive and Ever Return to his Native Land ..."
Could John and Thomas be the son of this Joseph who left his father under apparently bad terms and settled on the frontier of Virginia?

>As to Archibald Milam, we only find a record of the Archibald Milam who died in 1806 at his homeplace at >Shanon's Mill, named for his wife Susan Shanon, when a large Millstone fell on him and crushed him. He was
>young, leaving a young widow and three young children. He is proven to have been the son of Moses Milam >who left Bedford County, Virginia to settle Franklin County, Kentucky. Archibald's son, Jefferson, followed
>Benjamin Rush Milam, son of Moses, out to Texas. The early reseach of the Milam family comes from the >1902 letter of William B. Davis of Tennessee who was at that time a very aged 75 year old man who was >telling stories from events that happened well over 100 years prior. A combination of his age and failing >memory, along with the negative nature of oral tradition makes Mr. Davis' comments highly suspect. We >cannot find any records to document the existence of an earlier generation with an Archibald Milam.

> Despite these two controversies that are still in existence, we do know, with certainty, that John and Thomas of >Virginia existed, and that virtually all Milams in America today, can trace their roots back to either John of >Virginia or Thomas of Virginia. Both John and Thomas were born in Virginia in early 1700's. John's >descendants tended to migrate south and west to SC, GA, AL, TN, AR. Thomas' descendants tended to >migrate west to WV, KY, TN, IL, IN, etc., and then south to MS, LA, TX. Benjamin Rush Milam, hero of the
> Texas Revolution, and probably the most famous Milam, is one of Thomas' descendants. I descend from >John.

Subject: Re: [MILAM-L] Jordan Milam book
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998
From: "Robert M. Wilbanks IV" <rmwiv@getnet.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
References: 1

JGarner253 wrote:
> I am not convinced that my Jordan was a son of Samuel & Sarah Kemp as Wilbanks thinks. I have yet to see >actual proof. The pension papers show Jordan to be born in 1750 and yet there has always been the >question - Why did Jordan not marry until he was 42 unless he had another family before Mary Peacock - >Eunice Hockey's book says that she has documented that Jordan & Mary had 12 children. I also believe there >was an Archibald Milam and Wilbanks says there is not.
>
> I am very interested in whatever anybody has and would really like to prove one way or the other.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joanne Garner

Joanne,

Didn't I send you the excerpt from Volume 6, # 4, the July-August 1993 issue of Milam Roots, in which I present my argument and proof on the parentage of Jordan Milam. First my argument discusses how Samuel and
Jordan are continuously found as living in close proximity to each other, first in Virginia and then in South Carolina where they migrated to together, but the primary piece of evidence is the birth record found of Jordan Milam in the famous Douglas Register; William Douglas was the minister in Goochland County, Virginia. There Jordan is recorded as born to Samuel Mylom and Sarah Kemp on February 28, 1764 and baptized on July 29, 1764. The birth date is only two days off from the date he reports in his pension, but it is too close to be coincedence, plus he is the only Jordan Milam in the 1700s and early 1800s.

If I didn't send you this excerpt, let me know, and I will send it to you.

Robert

Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:37:00 -0700
From: "Robert M. Wilbanks IV" <rmwiv@getnet.com>

Are there any Milam Family Reunions in the planning stages?

This would be a great place to notify us Milams about any upcoming reunions.

Subject:MILAM-L] Brainstorming Boston Milams
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi everyone,
I have been trying to do some strategic, top down type of thinking about what we know about the Boston Maylem/Milams. In other words I am trying to "see the forest and the trees." Here are some thoughts for consideration:

1. The prevailing opinion about the Boston Mylam/Mylom/Maylem/Milams, is that their line MAY have disappeared after only a couple of generations. I just don't believe this is possible.

My reasoning:
According to Vera Milam Ryker, John of Boston had 6 sons, and according to info I received from Robert Wilbanks, dated October 1994, John had an additional son, John Jr. One son, Benjamin, died young. That leaves 5-6 sons! Of those, it is only Joseph and his descendants that we know anything about (at least to my knowledge), and even that information is very sparse and gets murky very soon. What about the other sons' families? What are the chances that all of these other sons had no male offspring, and thus, no Maylem/Milam descendants? Zero, in my opinion. I say there is a better chance of winning the California lottery and simultaneously being struck by lightning, than it is for the other 4-5 sons of John of Boston to have had no
Maylem/Milam descendants. I suppose they all could have died of the Plague or something, but I doubt it.

There is no doubt that we have virtually no genealogical information on them after the 2nd generation, and in that sense they do seem to "disappear," but just because they disappear from view in records, doesn't necessarily mean that they ACTUALLY disappeared. Also, let's not forget about the Civil War, and about the many courthouses and other public offices that were razed and records destroyed, especially in Virginia.

However, there is good evidence of John of Boston's son, Ebenezer, being in Baltimore, Maryland in 1675, and of John of Boston's grandson, Joseph Jr., being in Virginia in the early 1700's. You can see that at least some of the Boston Milam descendants embarked upon a southern migration. Like most American pioneers, they were probably enticed southward by the availability of land grants or other free or cheap land.

What about the other sons, or grandsons, of John of Boston? I'm talking about the ones we know nothing about, except that they were born/existed. Isn't it reasonable to assume that they also migrated, with their kinsmen, southward to Maryland, Virginia, or other colonies in the late 1600's or early 1700's? If they had stayed in the Boston area, wouldn't there surely be some record of them, since by this time Boston had become an organized "metropolis" where record keeping was plentiful.

So where did they go and who are their descendants? Well, we don't know the answers to these questions right now. But logic tells me that there has to be John of Boston descendants out there that we don't know about, or that have been misidentified or wrongly connected to other family trees. A good example of how this can happen, is what happened to Mike Milam's ancestors George and William. (Mike, I still wish you would tell that story to the group).

I wonder how much detailed, no nonsense, "blood, sweat, and tears" type research has been actually done on the descendants of the Boston Maylem/Milams? Most Milams struggle just to get their tree traced back to
John and Thomas of Virginia, much less to Boston in 1630's. So the Boston Milams often get shorted I suspect. New data on the Boston Maylem/Milams could really change what we "know" about Milams. Maybe the data is there just waiting for someone to really look for it? Anyone need a challenge?

Anybody else got any ideas? Thanks, Oliver Milam.

Subject:[MILAM-L] To: Robert Wilbanks
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Robert,
Thanks for taking the time to respond to a couple of our emails. It is great to have your thoughts and help.

You touched on a couple of subjects that have intrigued me for some time and I would like to follow-up on them if you don't mind.

1. To support your theory that Archibald never existed, you say "no Archibald is found in the Virginia records in the 1700s or early 1800s." In Vera Milam Ryker's book, she states this about Archibald: ARCHIBALD MILAM, born 1729, lived with his family in Bedford County, Virginia and was probably still living when his son, Moses Scott Milam, married 18 October 1774, when the record in Bedford County said "Moses Milam, son of Archibald." What about this record?

2. To support your theory that Thomas of Virginia was born before 1716, and not 1727 as often thought, you say, "Thomas is first found in Orange County, Virginia, on the western frontier, in 1737, just 13 years after Samuel married Martha Gardner on the coast. Thomas appears in court when a William Smith brought suit against Thomas for 400 pounds of tobacco. Thomas is clearly not a 13 year old child, and in fact appears to be a well established adult. In fact, by law a male could not appear in court, or conduct any form of business, if he was not of the age of 21 or more. Thus, this would place Thomas as born no later than 1716."

My thoughts:
Isn't it possible that this Thomas is not Thomas of Virginia, son of Samuel Mileham/Milam, but the Thomas Milum, that Judge W.E. Bohannon, in 1927 at age 80, said was his ancestor and that this Thomas Milum received a land grant from Lord Fairfax, dated 31 January 1749? This land grant was in what was formerly Orange County, Virginia. And although it has never been proved or disproved, or even asserted, to my knowledge, isn't it possible for this Thomas to be a son of John of Boston's grandson, Joseph, Jr., who was in the exact same area much earlier? It seems to me that it is very likely that a commingling of Boston Maylem/Milam descendants and Samuel Mileham/Milam descendants occurs in Virginia about this time. At the very least, I don't think it can be said with certainty that it didn't happen.

Thanks for any insights you can give, Oliver Milam.

Subject:Re: Milum/Milam apples
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998
From: Donna Carleton <bearcreekin@plix.com>
Organization: Bear Creek Nursery
To: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
References: 1

LonzoMilam wrote:
>m trying to locate the Milum or Milam apple. Do you carry it? Do you have graflings? Thank you for any help >you can provide, Oliver Milam.

We have it only as a benchgraft. We can custom make one for you. You can send us your address and I will send you a catalog. You can reach us at 509 732-6219.

Jane at Bear Creek

Subject:Milam
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998
From: Herschel Hall <catandrob1214@worldnet.att.net>
To: LonzoMilam@aol.com

I am searching for information on a Milam from Vigo County, IN. I am not sure if I emailed you before or not. My ggg=grandmother was Mary or Margaret Elizabeth Milam who married John Moore April 2, 1871. Both are
listed as being from Vigo County, IN. Have you heard of these people? Can you give me some names of Milams in Vigo County. I also go to our local library at least once a month if anyone needs me to look up
anything. Thanks Cathi Curry

Subject: [MILAM-L] Mary A. Bowman
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998
From: Katrina Wills <e9618200@citynet.net>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Does anyone have any information on Mary A. Bowman, wife of Reese Milam. Mary was the daughter of David and Christina Bowman, born about 1848 in Tazewell County VA. She and Reese were married about 1870/71. Reese was the grandson of James and Margaret Davidson.

Reese and Mary A. Bowman were my great grandparents

Katrina

Subject:[MILAM-L] fwd: Boston Mylams data
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:45:09 EDT
From:LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Oliver,

the only listings for Mylam i found listed was in 2 books

from the book Genealogical Dictionary of New England vol III, K-R by James Savage, it lists:

Mylam, or Milom, Humphrey, Boston 1648, by w. Mary, daughter I think, of John
Gore of Roxbury, had:
Mary, b. 23 May 1652;
Constance, 15 Dec. 1653;
Abigail, 10 Oct. 1660;
Hannah, 27 June 1663;
Ruth, 26 Apr. 1666;
beside Mary and Sarah;
was a cooper, in his will of 14 Feb. 1667, probated 2 May, following names:
wife, Mary and five daughters of which Constance m. John Alcock. One of his
wivess, if he had two, was d aughter of John Gore.

John, Boston, brother of the preced., prob. elder, a cooper, freeman. 25 May 1636, by wife Christian had:
Benjamin, bapt. 10 Jan. 1636, d. at 4 yrs;
Constance, 16 Sept. 1638, tho. rec. of town says he was b. 28 Dec. of that yr.;
John 13 Sept. 1640, but town rec. says b. 18 Sept.;
Eliasaph, b. 30 Sept. 1642, wisely bapt.
Eleazer, 2 Oct. a. 4 days old;
Samuel, 18 Oct. 1644, a. 3 days old;
Ebenezer, 6, bapt. 10 May 1646;
Samson, bapt. 12 Aug. 1649;
Joseph and Mary, twins. b. 26 Feb. 1652;

remarried that yr. but if the record is true, which i distrust, he came back, and by another wife Mary, had Sarah, 6 Apr. 1656.

In the Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England by C.E. Banks it lists: Humphrey and John Mylan from Warfield, Bertskire going to Boston, Mass. no date or ship listed, hope this helps - cj

Subject[MILAM-L] MILAM'S COLONY
Date:Thu, 23 Apr 1998
From:LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To:MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

MILAM'S COLONY Records, 1834-1835 10 lin in.

Coahuila and Texas (Mexico)--History--Sources.
Emigration and immigration--Texas.
Land titles--Texas.
Mexico--History--1821-1860--Sources.
Milam, Benjamin.
Padilla, José Antonio Public records--Texas.
Surveying--Texas.
Texas--San Patricio.
Notes:
Forms part of the Spanish Collection.
Land titles, correspondence, lists, survey field notes, plats.
Language: Chiefly in Spanish, documents in English are noted in the inventory.
Finding aids: Inventory, series and folder level control. Index to land titles, by surname.
Cite as: Milam’s Colony Records, Texas General Land Office.

Description
In 1826, Benjamin Rush Milam received an empresario contract to settle 300 families between the Guadalupe and Colorado rivers north of the San Antonio Road. Talbot Chambers was appointed commissioner and issued 55 land titles to settlers in Milam’s Colony during 1835.

The records of Milam's Colony relate to the distribution of land and consist of land titles, correspondence, lists, plats, and survey field notes. The correspondence primarily relates to details of Milam’s colonization contract.

Inventory
(All records are in Spanish, unless otherwise noted)
1. Correspondence from José Antonio Padilla regarding Milam’s empresario contract, 1834. [SC 40/1]

2. Land titles.
     a. Land titles, 1835. [SC 39]
     b. Testimonios (copies) of land titles. [SC 40/2 - 5]
     c. Unfinished land titles. [SC 40/6 - 40/16]
     d. Blank land titles. [SC 40/17 - 40/20]

3. Survey field notes, 1835 (bound volume, in English). [SCFB "S"] Field notes of surveys done by Bartlett Sims and Samuel Shackelford.

4. "Milam’s Colony: 65 Oaths of Colonists at Mina Bastrop, Feb.-Sept. 1835 Before Talbot Chambers " (1 bound volume). The oaths provide age, nationality, family, and occupation. [SCB]

5. Plats of surveys made in Milam’s Colony [183-]. [Atlas N6.C6, C7.B12, C7.A7, C7.A5]

Last updated 26 October 1995.
Send comments to tgloarc@glo.state.tx.us.

Texas General Land Office
1700 North Congress Avenue
Austin, Texas 78701
+1(512) 463-5001

Subject: MILAM-L] EMILY MILAM
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998
From: Lobomoon2 <Lobomoon2@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Emily was b. 7 Oct 1807 in Madison County, KY - d. 1891 near Liberty, Clay
County, MO; m. (1) Andrew Lewis Crow about 1827-28 in Cumberland County, KYand
(2) John Warwick Reynolds (my g-g-grandfather) in 1846 in Clay County, MO.

It is probable but not proven that Emily was a descendant of the following
Milams:

Thomas Milam b. 1727 in Bedford County, VA; m. Mary Rush Adams
John Milam b. abt. 1750 in Bedford County; m. Anne Jackson
Ambrose Milam b. abt. 1772; m. Polly (Moore) Miller in 1800 in Madison County,
KY

I would love to hear from anyone who has any connection to this family.

Thanks,

Lois Werline
Kansas City, MO

Subject: [MILAM-L] Olde English Milams
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi cousins,
I just got off the phone with Jim Milum, a long time Milum/Milam researcher, and currently an Arkansas State Representative. He wrote a book on his Milum/Milams in 1980. He descends from Jordan Milam. I thought I'd pass along some things we talked about.

He and his wife recently made a trip to Norfolk County, England and visited the remains of Mileham Castle, talked to the owners of the land who gave them "the big key" to St. John the Baptist Church so they could visit it at their leisure. Some of the old Milehams are buried in the floor of the church! Jim said everything that we had previously heard about was actually there. So if you were like me, a little skeptical of the "olde English information" we have on Mileham/Milams, apparently there is no need to be. According to Jim, it is
all as previously reported. I asked him if he discovered any major new information while there, and he said he did not.

To refresh your memories, Mileham/Milam ancestors came into England with William the Conqueror in 1066, from Normandy. Land was granted to these ancestors in the area where the castle/town stands today. In 1377, there are records of George de Mileham and his brother William on the land. Jim mentioned that there is some evidence that the Norman/Mileham ancestors are connected to the Jewish people of North Africa. I recently did a people search, and there are many Milehams in England today.

Jim also visited Hickman County, Tennessee recently, and found Jordan Milam's cabin still standing on the land he had received as bounty for his Revolutionary War and War of 1812 service. He said he hoped to move it to
Arkansas.

Take care, Oliver.

Subject: Re: [MILAM-L] To: Robert Wilbanks
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:17:03 -0700
From: "Robert M. Wilbanks IV" <rmwiv@getnet.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
References: 1
LonzoMilam wrote:
GO TO THE LETTER ROBERT IS RESPONDING TO.

I have a copy of the marriage record of Moses Milam to Miss Boyd on October 18, 1774, and nowhere on the record is there mentioned an Archibald Milam. Though it is possible that I may have missed
something, I feel that my research of Virginia records has been very thorough over the last 20 years, and I assure you that there are no Virginia records in the 1700s and early 1800s which mention an Archibald
Milam.

The book by Vera Milam Ryker was actually put together by her daughter and was based upon the old notes that Mrs. Ryker still had at that time. Those notes were based upon the old tradition that most Milam researchers have stubbornly lived by. Many Milam researchers are resistant to my new findings, and yet are also resistant to searching for original documentation. They still cling to the old heresay that has been passed on to us which the older Milam researchers are still passing around. We must discontinue basing our research upon the
undocumented research of the early Milam researchers of the turn of the century and the 1930s. We are not going to find birth, marriage and death records to help us with our research, so we must use other forms
of records for our continuing research.

The land grant of 1749 was for the land on Doubletop Mountain, near what would become Milam's Gap; I have an abstract of this grant. In 1737, when Thomas appears in court, he was most likely living on this piece of
land on Doubletop Mountain in Orange County, Virginia. Thomas Milam never left Doubletop Mountain until he sold it and migrated to Bedford County in 1763. At the time that he sold it, it was in Culpeper County. Today it is in Madison and Page Counties. Remember that Rush Milam, a proven son of Thomas, states in his pension that he was born in Culpeper County and migrated with his father to Bedford County in 1763, thus establishing that the Thomas in Bedford County is the same Thomas who disappears from Culpeper County in 1763.

Yes, it is my belief that Thomas and John were most likely sons of Joseph Milam Jr. of Boston who is believed to have settled on the western frontier of Virginia. But I have not found any documents proving that Joseph was in Virginia, that is why I don't consider it proven. I don't believe that Thomas and John had any connection with
Samuel in Lancaster County; but I'm not stating that as proof.

Robert

Subject:Re: [MILAM-L] Fwd: Milum/Milam apples
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:36:29 -0700
From: "Robert M. Wilbanks IV" <rmwiv@getnet.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
References: 1

Tom Priest of Portland, Oregon, whom I have met with on several occasions, has a Milam Apple Tree which grows Milam apples. He had obtained a graft several years ago and a couple of years ago sent me about eight apples. They were delicious, and I gotta tell you I'm not much of an apple lover.

I'm pretty sure that I had reported on all of this in one of the past issues of the Milam newsletters.
His e-mail is twpri@teleport.com.

Subject: Re: [MILAM-L] 1785 Halifax Co., VA Heads of Family
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998
From:"Robert M. Wilbanks IV" <rmwiv@getnet.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
References: 1

LonzoMilam wrote:

> 1785 Halifax County Heads of Family (last name, first name, white souls, dwellings, other buildings)
> 1,132 households, 6,576 white souls
> Milam, Bartlett, 10, 1, 0
> Milam, Benjamin, 1, 1, 0
> Milam, Thomas, 3, 0, 1
> Milame, James, 1, 1, 0
James Milame is right next door to

Chumley, Grace 5, 1, 0

They are in Nathaniel Hunt's District.
Bartlett, Benjamin and Thomas are all next door to each other in James Bates' District. Many of the other families in Halifax County migrate with the Milams to Laurens County, South Carolina.

Subject: [MILAM-L] more Boston Milams
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:54:14 EDT
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi cousins,
I am forwarding a little more info on Boston Milams that I received today. If you look closely there are some differences from the last data I received (taken from a different source). This is the first time I have seen a wife
named Anne mentioned, however it doesn't look quite right does it? At least it's a clue. Take care, Oliver.

Oliver,
Do you have this bit of information? (From Pope's "Pioneers of Massachusetts.")

MYLAM, MILAM, MILOM
John, cooper, Boston, with wife Anne admitted to the church May 25, 1636. Had liberty to wharf before his property 27 (9) 1643. Made arrangement with Wm. Franklin to pay certain tolls for vessels coming up the stream for his use or for the mill. Wife Christian; children:
Benjamin, bapt 10 (11) 1635
Constance, born 25 (10) 1638
John, born. 18 (7) 1640
Eleazer, 30 (7) 1642
Samuel, born 15 (6) 1644
Ebenezer, born 6 (3) 1646
Elizabeth, bapt. 30 (6) 1647
Samson, bapt. 2 (6) 1649, age about two days
Joseph, born 26 (12) 1651.
****************
Fancypatch@aol.com
Jan Weber
Linden, CA 95236

Subject: [MILAM-L] VA Milam marriages
Date:Fri, 24 Apr 1998
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Milams,
Thought this might help someone: Bedford County, Virginia Marriages MILAM, MILLAM

•Oct. 19, 1774; Moses Milam & Elizabeth Boyd, dt William; Moses Dooley,Surety.
•Jul. 16, 1783; Rush Milam & Elizabeth Fowler, dt William; James Wilson, Surety.
•Oct. 1, 1785; James Spence & Elenor Milam, dt Ann; Congrave Jackson, Surety; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, Oct. 2, 1785.
•Jan. 18, 1786; William Embrey & Frances Milam, dt Anne; James Spence, Surety; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, Jan. 19.
•Sep. 8, 1788; Micajah Milam & Margarett Neale, dt Daniel Neal; William Wright, Surety; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, Sept. 9, 1788.
•Feb. 24, 1789; Thomas Terry & Polly Milam, dt Ann; James White, Surety; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, April 2, 1789.
•Sep. 28, 1790; Moses Milam, s Anny & Edy Fuqua, dt John; Joseph Fuqua, Surety.
•Aug. 1, 1791; Thomas Millam & Lucy Langsdon; William Shepherd, Surety; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, Aug. 1, 1791.
•Dec. 13, 1791; James Williamson & Elizabeth Milam; Aram Campbell, Surety; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, Dec. 13, 1791.
•Mar. 15, 1793; William Milam & Susanna Hilley; Matthew Worley, Surety; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, March 21, 1793.
•Dec. 23, 1793; James Williamson & Deborah Milam; James Williamson, Surety; Consent of Elizabeth Milam; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, Dec. 24, 1793.
•Oct. 1, 1795; William Bruce & Nancy Milam, dt Salley; William Milam, Surety; Married by Jeremiah Hatcher, Oct. 2, 1795.
•Dec. 18, 1795; Christopher Sutton & Nancy Milam; Caleb Tate, Jr., Surety.
•Feb. 18, 1797; John Murphy & Ruth Milam; Solomon Milam, Surety; Married by James Turner, Feb. 23, 1797. •Nov. 7, 1799; John Millam & Ditsey Reynolds, dt John; Joel Salmon, Surety.
•Mar. 14, 1800; John Reynolds & Nancey Millam, dt Zachariah; Jesse Bradley, Surety; Married by Isham Fuqua, March 18, 1800.
•Dec. 15, 1802; Benjamin Milam & Charity Campbell, dt Jeane Capbell; Henry Campbell, Surety; Married by James Turner, Dec. 16, 1802.
•Feb. 3, 1808; Samuel Rice & Sally Milam; Philip Reynolds, Surety
•Jan. 8, 1812; Zachariah Milam & Rhoda Blankenship; Ben Blankenship, Surety.
•Aug. 10, 1814; Joseph Milam & Catharine Kinser; Samuel Deardoff, Surety; Married by James Turner, Aug. 11, 1814.
•Oct. 25, 1817; Benjamin Milam & Liza Rice, dt William; Baley Rice, Surety; Married by Enoch W. Terry, Oct. 25, 1817.
•Dec. 23, 1818; Solomon Milam & Nancy Phillips; Thomas Phillips, Surety; Married by William Harris, Dec. 24, 1818.
•May 10, 1821; Joseph Milam & Nancy Murphy, dt Nancy, Sr.; James Williamson, Surety.
•Jun. 9, 1826; Solomon Milam & Nancy Everett; John Everett, Surety.
•Nov. 5, 1832; James P. Milam & Delaney Coffee, dt Abner; Holcombe L. Coffee, Surety.
•Nov. 15, 1832; Pettis Milam & Sally Wilkerson; Moses Austin, Surety; Consent of Betsy A. Berkes and Jeesey Coleman.
•May 4, 1833; William H. Rice & Mary K. Milam; Benjamin Milam, Surety; Married by William Harris, May 23, 1833.
•Dec. 23, 1833; John G. Page & Mary R. Millam, dt John; Joel R. Milam, Surety; Married by William Harris, Jan. 1, 1834.
•Jan. 26, 1838; Pettis Milam & Jemima Milam, dt Benjamin K. Millam; Elisha G. Turpin, Surety; Married by William Harris, Feb. 8, 1838.
•Dec. 23, 1841; James M. Hensley, s William & Lucinda H. Millam; William H. Rice, Surety
•Nov. 28, 1842; Albert Bruce & Jerusha Jane Milam; John Milam, Surety; Married by William Harris, Dec. 8, 1842.
•Dec. 8, 1842; Alfred Bruce & Jerusha Milam; Married by William Harris.
•May 24, 1847; John E. Millam & Matiida M. Hudson; Richeson M. Penn, Surety; Married by William Harris, May 27, 1847.

Halifax County, Virginia Marriages

Oliver,
There really isn't that much in the Halifax book on your surname and am
sending it all:

    pg 475...1812, ****__Milan, John & Edey Burche
                ....1822, Nov 26__Milam, Allen & Charity Milam
    pg 509....1826, Dec 28__Willis, Joseph M. & Celia Milam
    pg 397....1782, Feb 20__Milam, Lewis & Mary Holt
    pg 396....1786, June 12__Milam, Thomas & E. Talbert

As you can see these are all marriages.

Subject:[MILAM-L] Tazewell Co., VA Marriages
Date:Fri, 24 Apr 1998
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi cousins,
Hope this helps someone:

Tazewell County, Virginia Marriages
Adam MILAN m Mary STOKES 28 Apr 1801
Daniel DAY m Christena Milam 11 Sept 1805
James Milam m Peggy DAVIDSON 29 Oct 1809
James ADAMS m Levisey Milam 29 Mar 1822
Ancel RICHARDSON m Elizabeth Milam 24 Sept 1830
Colby HOLBROOK m Nancy Milam 19 Dec 1833
William BELCHER m Polly Milam 25 Jan 1838
Lewis Milam m Eliizabeth GATES 13 Apr 1837
Andrew Milam m Jane Milam 22 July 1841
Allen MILEUM m Martha LESTER 14 May 1843
Tobias BELSHER m Margaret Milam 15 Mar 1845
Samuel BELL m Charity Milam 1 Jan 1852

Subject: Re: [MILAM-L] Military Milams
Date:Fri, 24 Apr 1998
From:LMilam74 <LMilam74@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Bruce Edward Milam
Cpl., USArmy
World War II
1260th Combat Engineer BN
France/Germany
Awarded Bronze Star
Mar 1944-May 1946

Larry Milam
LMilam74@aol.com

Subject: Re: [MILAM-L] Olde English Milams
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:52:41 EDT
From:LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi David,
I just read the story you recommended to me about the shrine and Nicholas Mileham. Very interesting. Is a sub-prior same as a priest? Thanks for sending it. I think I'll forward it on to the group. Take care, Oliver Milam.

Milams, Take a look at this story of a Mileham martyred protecting a religious shrine in Olde England:
http://cust.iamerica.net/nccsa186/olwinfo.htm

Subject:[MILAM-L] Right Address?
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:25:28 EDT
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Keith,
Welcome to the group. You asked about which address to use.

Use LonzoMilam@aol.com to report any problems or suggestions you may have regarding the management or operation of the mailing list.

In general, use MILAM-L@rootsweb.com for everything else. This results in virtually everything being sent to the whole group. The idea is to let everyone in the group see all of the discussions going on about Milams.
Hopefully, that will facilitate more discussion, more sharing of data and help, keep everyone informed, and keep things around here interesting.

Take care, and good hunting, Oliver Milam

Subject: [MILAM-L] To: Robert Wilbanks
Date:Sat, 25 Apr 1998
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Robert,
Thanks again for taking the time to discuss your thoughts and theories with us. The main reason this Milam group was created was to facilitate this type of discussion. I hope we will see much more of it soon, on a myriad of subjects and with a greater number of participants.

For one thing, it enables us to flesh out old, and new ideas, and create a better understanding of where we are, how we got there, and where we should be headed with Milam genealogy. And as they say, "Two heads are better than one." How about 70? This group could undoubtedly advance the current state of Milam genealogy dramatically. As individual participation grows, I am confident that we will get there.

Thanks again for providing a stimulous to group discussion. Being able to discuss Milams with someone as knowledgeable as you is very worthwhile and very helpful.

Discussion:
In your last email you stated: "The book by Vera Milam Ryker was actually put together by her daughter and was based upon the old notes that Mrs. Ryker still had at that time. Those notes were based upon the old tradition that most Milam researchers have stubbornly lived by. Many Milam researchers are resistant to my new findings, and yet are also resistant to searching for original documentation. They still cling to the old heresay that has been passed on to us which the older Milam researchers are still passing around. We must discontinue basing our research upon the undocumented research of the early Milam researchers of the turn of the century and the 1930s."

I know that you are not implying that Vera Milam's Ryker's book is "undocumented research" or that it is based upon flimsy "old hearsay" or "old tradition." I am sure you value her work highly, as do I, because I believe I
have seen her work used verbatim in the draft chapters of your book that you sent me a couple of years ago. If there is one thing that has come through loud and clear to me since I first started researching my Milams, it is that Vera's book is the most accurate and best documented available, bar none. After all, she was a highly educated woman. Besides having a personality that required organization and precision, she knew about and adhered to the formalities of footnoting and documenting research.

In addition, because her Milams and my Milams coincide a great deal, while doing my own research, I have encountered many people who knew her, knew of her research, and knew of her obsession with "getting it right." I have talked to the people who put her book together, a professional researcher that she hired, as well as other relatives and other Milam researchers who knew her and the quality of her work. The overwhelming consensus of opinion is that she took great, great pains to make sure nothing was asserted in her book that
was not documented. She spent 20 years and $20,000-$30,000 (1960's $) on her research. Her son told me, in a regretful tone, "She cared more about the dead than she did about the living; she was obsessed with it."

Am I saying that it is error free? Absolutely not. No one can write a book on genealogy and not have errors. After all, I have detected errors in her work regarding my family, and I have seen them repeated verbatim in your work. My efforts here are just to set the record straight. After all, she can't speak for herself. I don't want there to be any confusion that her book wasn't in fact Vera's work. She dedicated too much time and effort at it to
let that slide.

When I talked to her niece, the person who typed up the book, I think I "grilled" her pretty well about how she transcribed Vera's material into the book. She said "it was easy, I just typed it." Vera had already handwritten
just about everything that was going into her book. No "interpretation" had to be done.

Personally, I am very grateful that her work has been preserved by her family. It would be a great tragedy if her research and work were lost. A very, great tragedy. For me, finding her book was like finding a great treasure. It lays out my Milams all the way back through Coleman Milam to John of Virginia. Because of her, I not only know 9 generations of my Milams, but have pictures and family stories about them. She has enabled me to become "familiar" with my Milam ancestors. Her book is a must for anyone researching this line. Because of my fervor for her book, some might think I have a monetary interest in it. I do not. My only interest is seeing Vera Milam Ryker get the credit she justly deserves. Take care, Oliver Milam.

Subject: [MILAM-L] Mileham, England
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998
From: LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To:MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Mileham, Norfolk County, England

Mileham is situated on the watershed between the rivers and tributaries of the Great Ouse in the west and those flowing towards the eastern coast. This strategic point was occupied by the Romans, and some of the many artifacts found, such as a 60 ounce silver dish, are on display at the British Museum. Above high earthworks there are the remains of a Norman castle. The church, with parts dating back to the 12th century, has beautiful windows with pictures of saints and benefactors. The chancel is the burial place of the famous diarist`s cousin, Fermor Pepys (1660). There is a small brass to Christopher Crowe of 1523, an ancestor of Lord Nelson`s.

Subject:MILAMS OF KENTUCKY
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998
From:"Wakeland" <wakeland@earthlink.net>
To: <milam@earthlink.net>

HI Mike

My name is Thomas Wakeland, I am a High School Civil Engineering teacher in Tampa Florida. and at times it is very relaxing to explore the history of the family. You are to be commended on the great job you have done on the family. I am at the point of total confusion, I think some times that I will stop the search. but, I must continue the search since my grandfather was such a great person and never had a bad word for anyone.He died as a worn coal miner in southern West Virginia. I have subscribed to the family mail list and I been in contact with Mr.. Wilbanks with no positive results.
My Mother was Juanita Francis Milam. My Grandfather was JESSE BLAINE MILAM b19 Dec 1884 Blaine, Lawrence Co., KY d 08 Aug 1967 Willamson, Mingo Co., WV.
1900 Census Lawrence Co. KY
Father HENRY MILAM b 1860 KY
Step Mother ANNA WHITT b 1867 WV
JESSE BLAINE MILAM (see above)
ARAZONA MILAM b Dec 1888 (sister)
NORA WHITT b Apr 1885 (step sister)
ALMIRA ?sp WHITT b Dec 1883 (step sister)
I have a copy of the 1900 census record. IS THERE A TIE TO YOUR FAMILY ??

I am looking for the Mother of JESSE BLAINE and the Father of Henry.(too many Henrys) Jesse married MAUDE MAYNARD. I ALSO HAVE INFORMATION ON THE MAYNARD AND WELLMAN FAMILIES
I would appreciate any help that you have and will share what I have.
Thanks, Tom Wakeland
wakeland@earthlink.net

Subject: [MILAM-L] To: Robert Wilbanks
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998
From:LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Robert,
As always, thanks for taking the time to discuss your ideas and knowledge of Milams.

Point of discussion #1:
In your last email you state: "I have a copy of the marriage record of Moses Milam to Miss Boyd on October 18, 1774, and nowhere on the record is there mentioned an Archibald Milam. Though it is possible that I may have missed something, I feel that my research of Virginia records has been very thorough over the last 20 years, and I assure you that there are no Virginia records in the 1700s and early 1800s which mention an Archibald Milam."

My thoughts: That sure seems to put that issue to bed. That marriage record is the only place I had heard that Archibald had been mentioned. Since it isn't there, then there is no basis, that I know of, to refute your argument
that Archibald did not exist. I'll go along with you on it, for now.

Point of discussion #2 :
Last time you stated: "Thomas Milam never left Doubletop Mountain until he sold it and migrated to Bedford County in 1763. At the time that he sold it, it was in Culpeper County. Today it is in Madison and Page Counties. Remember that Rush Milam, a proven son of Thomas, states in his pension that he was born in Culpeper County and migrated with his father to Bedford County in 1763, thus establishing that the Thomas in Bedford County is the same Thomas who disappears from Culpeper County in 1763."

My thoughts: That clarifies your position superbly, and it is based on sound data and reasoning. I'll go along with you on this one too.

Point of discussion #3:
At this point, we are in a subject area where you can do us all a lot of good if you will give us the benefit of your Milam knowledge once more. How did the information originate that Samuel came from England, and that he had sons John, Thomas, and Archibald? Did someone just pull that out of thin air? Also the dates of birth for them?

I talked to Mary Sturgeon several months ago about her book on Milams, and at the time she was pretty adamant about Samuel coming from England into Virginia. Yesterday, when I talked to her again, she was less so. She mentioned that you had discussed this subject with her also. I have not read her book, but she is sending a copy to the local library for me to peruse. Since I caught her by surprise when I called, she was working from an unrefreshed memory. She said she thinks she got most of her info on Samuel from "a lady in Texas."

I have a feeling that this may have been Maud Holston Lawson, of Houston, who continued the research started by her sister, Rose Holston Pope, when she died without publishing it. Rose had been on a Milam research committee in the early 1900's, along with, Herbert M. Milam of Atlanta, Marcus A. Milam of Miami, (all decendants of Barlett Milam) and Wiley Glen Milam (descendant of Thomas and Elizabeth Talbert).

This must be the group of researchers who you were referring to when you said, "We must discontinue basing our research upon the undocumented research of the early Milam researchers of the turn of the century and the 1930s."

Is this where the theory of Samuel coming from England originated? If so, do you know their reasoning or documentation? Is it totally bogus? Obviously, the truth of whether Samuel came from England is a pivotal piece of information to Milam genealogy. Help us understand what is known about it.

Thanks again for taking the time to discuss this and for all your help, Oliver Milam.

Subject:Re: [MILAM-L] To: Robert Wilbanks
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 14:44:47 -0700
From: "Robert M. Wilbanks IV" <rmwiv@getnet.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
Click here to go to the letter being discussed by Robert Wilbanks

You missed my point. I was ABSOLUTELY IN NO WAY implying that Vera Ryker's work was of poor
quality or undocumented, or that she was an unskilled researcher and organizer. Her book is very good, as well as a number of other books on the Milam family that are out there. Vera's book is well documented from Coleman Milam down to the present generations.

I was merely indicating that, like all the other current Milam works and researchers, she relied solely upon the heresay and guesses made by the earlier Milam researchers when it came to the very earliest Milam generations. My previous discussion was that we must try to begin anew in regard to the research of the earlier Milam generations and look for documentation regarding these earlier generations. During this research
process we must try not to use these earlier beliefs. I'm sure that Vera understood and believed this also; we had corresponded regularly before her death. When she typed the book, her niece only used Vera's notes, and probably did not know about Vera's actual feelings and beliefs.

I am trying to point out that it was only by ignoring the old belief in the three brothers of John, Thomas and Archibald, and by a very earnest attempt to find the documentation on each of them by diligently researching the early Virginia records was I able to make some of the most substantial discoveries regarding the Milams in Virginia in the last several years; such as disproving that Archibald ever existed, finding Jordan's birth record and proving his parents, discovering Thomas' most probable date of birth, etc. Mike Milam, of California, was also able to make a substantial discovery through his diligent research of the actual documents: now proving that John had a son William who in turn was the true father of the George Milam of Indiana; as reported in the last issue of the Milam Roots newsletter.

Vera and I agreed together that her link as to Coleman being the son of Thomas was flimsy, and we worked togther to try to strengthen it. It is only because of my research of all of the Milams of that time period, combined with process of elimination, circumstantial evidence, apparent relationships and other indirect evidence can we state the high probability that Coleman was the son of Thomas.

Please try to understand what I am saying. I am not trying to downplay or degrade anyone or anyone else's research efforts. I am merely trying to create an effort for all Milam researchers to take the time to uncover the truth with their own original research effort, and not continue to redistribute the old and false notes of the earlier Milam researchers, or depend upon old traditions, heresay, guesses and other forms of undocumented information.

Robert

Subject:Re: MILAMS OF KENTUCKY>> REPLY FROM TOM WAKELAND
From:"Tom Wakeland" <wakeland@earthlink.net>
To:<milam@earthlink.net>

Hi MIKE
Here are some of the important parts to the puzzle.I received this two years ago but have not been able to confirm:

Alfred Milam (got this name from James H Milems death record and it was hard to read). Born in Va.
Married Elizabeth Robison who was born in KY (also wed to Alph Davis)
Children:
1 Lydia, b abt 1833,
2 James Hairson or Harrison, b. 24 N0v 1836 in Floyd Co, KY, d. 19 Dec 1911 in Richardson, Lawrence Co, KY, buried in Bartlett Cemetery, KY, Wed Clarinda Roberson on 23 June 1859 (she prev wed Samuel Spears
on 31Mar 1856) More on her below. He was a Private in Co. A, 39th Regiment, KY Volunteer Infantry, 1863-1865
3 John Milem, b. abt 1841 in KY
4 Samuel, b. abt 1843 in KY
5 Henry, b. abt 1846 in KY
6 Margaret, b. abt 1849 in KY

Clarinda Roberson, b. 12 Mar 1840 in Johnson Co,KY, d, 10 Feb 1914 at Richardson, Lawrence Co, KY. Her father was James Harry Roberson, b abt 1815, her mother was Sally Lawson, b. abt 1819. Her children (and James Hairson Milems) were:
1 Wm M,    b. abt 1859
2 Henry H, b. abt 1860
3 James H, b. abt 1862
4 John M, b. 25 Jan 1864
5 Samuel W.b. 5 Jul 1866
6 Hiram B. b. 28 Oct 1868
7 Thos J   b. abt 1870
8 Permelia Ann, b. 12 Aug 1874, wed Wm Cofax Burke 4 Dec 1891
9 Lydia,   b. 6 Aug 1879
10 Patrick, b. 17 Sep 1882
11 Lillie, b. 20 Aug 1886

Permelia Ann and William Cofax Burke lived for awhile in Mingo County,WVA. In fact, he returned there and spent the last part of his life there. ( THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TIE TO MY GRANDFATHER))Please check the date of Henry's death, should that be 1933 and not 1833? If this doesn't show anything I have a Wakeland cousin in Evansville, Indiana that is a LDS and he said that he will check the church records. Again Mike I thank you for your help.
Thanks, Tom Wakeland
wakeland@earthlink.net

Subject:[MILAM-L] To:Robert Wilbanks
Date:Sun, 26 Apr 1998
From:LonzoMilam <LonzoMilam@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Robert,
Thanks for sharing your Milam knowledge with us once more.

I agree totally with your point that we need to verify and document everything regarding the genealogy of our ancestors. In fact, that was exactly the point of my "Brainstorming Boston Milams" email a few days ago. And as I have said before, and you mentioned last time, Mike Milam's experience with his ancestors George and William is just the latest example of why we have to rethink the assumptions and theories, and keep trying to verify everything.

I have come to realize that genealogical research is an evolutionary process for most of us. The first stage is to find out what is ALREADY "known" about your ancestors. In other words, find out what has already been ocumented and what the concensus of expert opinion is regarding your ancestors.

The second stage is probably to RETHINK the opinions, theories, and assumptions made by the experts regarding controversial areas, and to attempt to find and document the "real" answers. The third stage is probably when you find some new answers, which lead you to start espousing your own NEW opinions, theories and assumptions. There may be more stages, I don't know.

I think I am entering the second stage, and that is why I jump at the chance to discuss it all with you. Discussing the areas of uncertainty and controversy with an expert like you, enables me, and the others here, to understand how the theories were formulated and what they were based on. Hopefully, this will bring new minds and fresh ideas into the arena. The result of this rethinking may be total agreement with the old opinions or a discovery of new areas needing focus and research.

Additionally, discussing them here, where all the group can observe it, and join in if they wish, has the potential of tremendously advancing the overall level of understanding of Milam genealogy. That is my goal, and I know it is yours also. With your continued help and availability for discussion with us here, I know it will be advanced even further. Take care, Oliver.

SubjectMILAM-L] MO Milam branch
Date:Sun, 26 Apr 1998
From:"Charles D. Milam" <cmilam@compuserve.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com
         I enjoy receiving the Milam emails and have read and saved every one.   I thought I had inherited my "green thumb" from my grandmother but after hearing about the history of the Milam Apple, Peach and Lemon trees, I am not so sure at this point.   I am sorry to take so long to get my input on email, but better late than never. I don't have this down on a table or form but I will write it out in letter form.
        My father, Charles Douglas Milam, Sr. was born October 3, 1920 in Oak Grove, MO, where I still have relatives: Florence (Milam) Owings and her older brother Roy Milam (married to Mary Kay Milam). My father died Oct 10, 1988 in Burbank, CA where I grew up. He died almost 50 years to the day from his father, Lewis or Louis Walter Milam, Florence and Roy's (their father was Bert b on April 27, 1884 in MO) Uncle "Lou" and my
grandfather, who was born on Feb 3, 1871 in Jackson Co. MO. Lewis (according to Roy) and Uncle Lou to Florence, died at the age of 67 in Los Angeles in 1938. He was married to Getrude Dorothy Vernon (b Nov 10, 1880 in Abilene, KS, d Mar 17, 1969 in Burbank). I initially had more info. on the Vernon side. Apparently my father and his father weren't very communicative, so most of the info. I have was researched and later
verified by Florence and Mary Kay.
        Florence tells me that my great grandfather Milton left VA in 1865 or 1866 and came to MO. Milton was b in Bedford County VA sometime in 1834 and married in the same county to Mary L. Wheat in the 1860's, d after 1900 in MO. Milton's father was Pettis D. Milam, b 1808 in VA, d 1870 in VA. He married Sally Wilkerson, b in VA but died (early) in 1835. They had two children, Eliza b 1832 in VA and Milton in 1834. There was another male son b in 1836 in VA, I guess to another mother.
        Milton and Mary Milam had 12 children (apparently my side of the Milam's were good at farming and carpentry, etc. ): Fred b 1865 in VA, Otis in 1866 in MO, Robert b Jan 1869, Walter (my great grandfather) in 1871, Mattie b Feb 1872, Cornelius b 1874, Jessie James b 1875, Annie b 1876, William b 1878, Lillie b 1879, Bert b Apr 27, 1884 and Milton D. b Nov 1886.
        My Sister Debborah Louise was born in Burbank on June 2, 1953 and lives with her husband Nelson Ross Boylan and daugher Heather in Santa Clarita, CA. My uncle Frank, b 1910 in MO, died in Lompoc, CA in 1972.
        Once when my father and I were having lunch at a restaurant in Glendale in the mid 1980's, when the table was ready and the name Milam was said, there were four Milam's who stood up: my father and I and to our
surprise two other Milams, brothers who lived and worked in the Glendale area. I think they told us their relatives were from Indiana.   It is not very often that we run into anyone else with the same last name.
        I am happy to share this info with you and will be very attentive to finding out the link between Petis and the earlier Virginia Milams in your newsletters.    Chuck Milam in Manhattan Beach, CA..

Subject: [MILAM-L] A lost Milam
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998
From: Henry Milam <Henry.Milam@drake.edu>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

Have been reading the list for sometime, but not participating. Now I want to try. Don't have much on Milam family (seems there was a scandal a few generations back and they didn't want to pursue it), but I have the interest. My records go back to a Thomas Jefferson Milam, born 22 Feb. 1843 in Johnson County Arkansas. His father was Solomon Milam, born in Beford County VA. He married someone named Elizabeth. I don't have dates on them or any further information about Solomon's family or the families previous to that. I have seen the Bedford County VA location pop up occasionally on the list, but not the name Solomon. Any ideas?
Henry Milam

Date:Mon, 27 Apr 1998
From: DocTrek01 <DocTrek01@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

I was entering on my computer the information that was sent about Bedford Co marriages. What does "dt" mean? Also, on 9/28/1790, Moses married two women on the same date? Is this right? HELP!!!

Subject:Death Records in Bedford (From the Bedford County Roots Mailing List)
Date:Mon, 27 Apr 1998
From: waddie <waddie@earthlink.net>
To:VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com

>Does anyone know whether there is a published list of deaths in Bedford County for the period 1880 - >1900??? Or, whether there is a published list of burials there during the same time frame?
>
>Thanks.
> Kathy.
>
Hi Kathy,
There sure is. The Bedford Genealogical Society has been compiling a LARGE cemeteries index as they can can find them for over 4 years now. The Records of Death are in the Courthouse also but I'm not sure of the years.

Waddie

Waddie / Bos'n Mate
BM1 USN RET.
Lynchburg, Virginia
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3348/

==== VABEDFOR Mailing List ====
Planning a Family Reunion? Post your schedule at URL:
http://members.aol.com/camorrison/vareunio/reunion.htm

Subject: [MILAM-L] No Subject
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998
From: Rokumushi <Rokumushi@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

My name is June Milam. I married into the family. My husband's name is Thomas Lynn Milam.His father's name is James Curtis MIlam who he thinks was born in Texas ( he is deceased now). My husband does not know much about his family and I would like to know more so my children know where they come from and who they are. James Curtis Milam came to Hawaii in the 50's and married Daisy Maunakea and they had 5 sons : James,jr,Samuel, Thomas,Wiliam & Benjamin and 3 daughters : Lurlene, Darlene & CathyAnn. This is all about I know, I wish I had more and if i do I shall share with you all. Thank you

Subject:[MILAM-L] Pettis Milam
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998
From: BMarble <BMarble@aol.com>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

I accidently posted this letter to the Bedford Co list. Oliver just happened to catch me and asked me to share this letter to the list. So, being as it is Milam related, I will share it with you.

Chuck,
I've been monitoring the Milam list in hopes of finding someone from this line. Before I begin, I would like to tell you a little story to explain my interest in the line of Pettis Milam.
My mother was born Aug 10 1939 in Pleasant Hill MO. She was named Bonna Jean Milam. My grandmother, Minnie Marie Markham, married Earl Clifton Milam, (marriage date not found). Earl was the son of Fred Chastain Milam and Claudia Johnson. Fred was the son of Milton who was son of Pettis. Anyway, that's how the line goes and I'll provide more details later. My mother was told on her wedding day by an elder sister that Earl Milam was not her real father. This haunted my mother for years, although she never remembered meeting Earl Milam. When I began researching my mothers tree, this story was revealed to me and I had a hard time getting anyone to talk about anything. Further into my research, I discovered that Earl and my grandmother
had divorced in 1936, which was 3 yrs prior to my mother's birth. This gave a little more weight to the above rumor. After much checking around and prodding to my aunts, the real story was revealed and it was discovered that Earl Clifton Milam was not my mother's birth father. My grandmother had named her Milam to protect her from knowing that she was an illigimate child. The story had a good ending, however, we did find the family of my mother's real birth father and after 58 years, my mother met her 1/2 brothers and sisters for the first time and they have a healthy and close relationship today. My grandmother died in 1957, just after my mother married, so she never had the chance to ask her mother about any of this. Anyway, I had done quite a bit of work on this Milam line and I am still interested in learning more. I am not a Milam descendant, but my aunts are and
I would like to continue this research for their benefit. This line seems to be hung up on Pettis Milam. In a book titled, "Personal Histories of Bedford Co", there is a biography on Pettis which follows:
>P.C. MILAM, pg 29
owner of a fine farm on Batter Creek, on which he has lived for many years, was born in Bedford Co, June 24 1808. In this county, February 8, 1838, he married Jemina Milliam, who was born here on the 15th of october 1820. They had nine children: Benjamin Kelley, born March 28, 1840; Sally H, July 14, 1842; Palestine W, August 7 1844, died in 1864; William H, June 7 1847; James M, November 26, 1849; Mary E, July 25, 1852; Lucy N, January 5 1855; Charles Spurgeon, April 8, 1858; Susan B, December 19, 1960. The three oldest sons were soldiers of Virginia through the war between the states, and the second son, Palestine W, was taken prisoner at Westminister, Maryland, and held at Fort Delaware, until he died. One of the other sons lives in Missouri, the oldest daughter lives in Montgomery Co and the others are in Bedford County. Benjamin K and Eliza Milam were the parents of Mrs Millam. Her father was born in Bedford county and died February 10, 1845; her mother, born in Fauquier County, Virginia, died July 13, 1877. Mary Milliam, mother of P.C., died May
13, 1865. His parents were natives of Bedford County. One of the sons of PC Millam, William H, is now conducting his estate, and the postoffice address of the family is Big Island, Bedford County, Virginia.

Now this is the ony thing that I have found that comes close to identifiying the parents of Pettis, naming his mother as Mary and saying that both parents were natives of Bedford Co VA. It is unknown who the father was. Jemina's parents are named and there is some information available on them, but this was not the line I was interested in, nor does it connect to you, as this was the second marriage for Pettis.

As you stated in your letter, Pettis married first, Sarah "Sally" Wilkerson on Nov 15, 1832 in Bedford Co. The Wilkerson line connects with the Markham line of my grandmother, named above, so I have done some research on this line. Sarah "Sally" Wilkerson was born abt 1810, probably in Bedford Co and died
1835-1837. She was the daughter of John Wilkerson (1787-1822) and Elizabeth "Betsy" Worley b 1790, who married in Bedford Co on Jan 8 1811. They had two children: Sarah and Eliza. Eliza was born abt 1814 and married Jesse Coleman, Nov 5, 1830 in Bedford Co. Jesse and Eliza had 11 children: 6 sons and 5 daughters. I have additional information on their line if and when you are ready for it. Elizabeth "Betsy" Worley Wilkerson remarried to David Burks on Oct 31, 1822 in Bedford Co.after the death of John I do not have any additional information on her.
John Wilkerson was the son of Parson Wilkerson and Anna Butler, who married in Bedford Co on Aug 31, 1785. Parson was born 1765-67 and died May 1837 in Bedford Co. They were the parents of 12 children of which I have descendant information on. 5 daughters and 7 sons: (1) Nicholas Wilkerson, Sr (1785-1871) m Malinda DeWitt, Jan 11 1803 in Bedford, they had 3 sons and 3 daughters. He later married Mildred J Preston,
May 15, 1867 in Bedford
(2) Sarah "Sally" Wilkerson (1785-1858) m Leroy Coleman Mar 28 1812, Bedford, they had 4 daughters and 2 sons
(3) Joseph Wilkerson (1786-1861/65) m Nancy McKinney, Oct 10 1810, Bedford Co, they had 3 sons and 5 daughters
(4) John Wilkerson (named above)
(5) Owen Wilkerson (1788) m Catherine Franklin, Sept 27, 1805, Bedford
(6) James Wilkerson (1790)
(7) Nancy Wilkerson m John Newby on Apr 5 1820, Bedford and John Mitchell on July 4 1831 in Bedford
(8) Phillip Wilkerson (d bef 1842) m Susanna Worley, Aug 25 1817, Bedford
(9) Sophia Wilkerson m Buckley Walker, Feb 29, 1820, Bedford
(10) William Wilkerson (May 15 1802- July 13 1867) m Mary Magdeline Musgrove on Aug 28, 1827, Bedford. They had 2 sons and 1 daughter
(11) Docia Wilkerson (1807) m Jesse E Couch, Dec 25, 1824, Bedford, 2 sons, 2 daughters
(12) Mary "Polly" Wilkerson (1808-Dec 20 1881) m Owen Wilkerson, Jr (son of Owen Wilkerson, Sr and Sarah Markham) on Oct 27 1834 in Bedford, 1 son, 4 daughters

Parson Wilkerson was the son of Joseph Wilkerson and Mary Franklin. Joseph was born in Powhaten Co, VA on May 12, 1729 and died in Bedford Co on Mar 15 1829. Mary and Joseph had 4 children, 3 sons and 1 daughter. Their daughter, Penelope "Nelly" Wilkerson was my ggggg grandmother. Joseph remarried to Rhoda
Lockett on December 29, 1808 in Bedford Co and they had one son. I do not have any additional information on the parents of Joseph's wives.
(1) John Wilkerson (1755-1824) m Susanna Johnson, Dec 16 1792 in Bedford, 4 daughters
(2) Penelope Wilkerson, (1764-Sept 1849) m Thomas Markham, Sr. on Dec 3 1785 in Bedford, 4 sons, 3 daughters
(3) Parson (listed above)
(4) Owen Wilkerson, Sr (1770-1852) m Sarah Markham, Feb 17, 1787, Bedford, 1 son, Owen married Rachel Musgrove, Mar 4 1830, Bedford, 1 daughter, 4 sons
(5) William Lockett Wilkerson (son of Joseph and Rhoda) Dec 11 1811 - Sept 20 1883, m Keziah Stovel Musgrove on Apr 1 1828 in Bedford, 6 sons, 6 daughters

Joseph was the son of Nicholas Wilkenson who died in Powhaten Co VA in 1786.
he was the father of 5 sons and 1 daughter.
(1) William Wilkenson
(2) Thomas W Wilkenson
(3) Mary Wilkerson
(4) James Wilkerson
(5) Joseph Wilkerson
(6) Agnes Wilkerson b 1746 m William Owen, Oct 28 1766 in Powhaten Co, VA
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.
Now back to Pettis and Sally. They had three children:
(1) Eliza Milam b 1832 in Bedford m Daniel W Rice and had at least three children: Edward b 1856; Davis b 1858; Elizabeth b 1859. (This information was taken from the 1860 census, I don't have other sources recorded)
(2) Milton Davis Milam b Dec 6 1836 Bedford Co, d Nov 5 1892 in MO, married Mary Louisa Wheat. (I'll pick up this line later)
(3) Infant Male, born 1835-1840. (I am presuming that this child may have died along with his mother.)
Pettis and Jemina Children: (birthdates given above)
(1) Sally H Milam m (1st) Jonathan W Page Dec 8 1869, Bedford (2) Jesse C Phillips
(2) Palestine W Milam
(3) William H Milam m Mary S Grant, Dec 11 1880, Bedford Co
(4) James M Milam m Georgia E Goodman, Dec 19 1883, Bedford Co
(5) Mary E Milam
(6) Lucy M Milam m M B Phillips, Bedford Co
(7) Charles Spurgeon Milam m Ann M Goodman, June 6 1888, Bedford
(8) Susan B Milam
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Milton Davis Milam and Mary Louisa Wheat
Mary was born Apr 7 1843 in Bedford Co and died October 1918 in Missouri. She was the daughter of Zachariah Joseph Wheat, b (Dec 17 1811 in Bedford) and Clementine Louisa Earley (d 1843-1845). They were married Oct 14 1837 in Bedford. They were the parents of three children: John Wesley b May 9 1840-d
Apr 6 1912 in Bedford; Ann Rebecca, b apr 3 1842; and Mary Louisa. Zacahriah remarried to Martha A Hancock on Jul 7 1845 in Bedford Co. and they had two children: Harriet Jane b May 30 1846 and Sarah L b 1848. Zachariah Joseph Wheat was the son of Zachariah Wheat and Edith Chastain.(At
one time I had a line on Edith Chastain taken from the Family Tree Maker CD's but I found alot of discrepencies in this info so I did not record it). Zachariah Wheat was born in 1769 in Manakin, Goochland Co, Virginia. (Father unknown). Edith Chastain was born Mar 17 1773 in Manakin, Goochland Co, VA. They were married Mar 17, 1791 in Bedford Co and had 10 children: 3 sons and 7 daughters. I have some descendant info on this family.
(1) Lucy Davis Wheat b Dec 15 1791 in Bedford, m John Everett, Jul 24 1815 in Bedford
(2) Nancy Wheat, b May 13 1796 Bedford, d Oct 22 1874, married William Owen Watson Dec 21 1821 in Bedford. They had 6 daughters and 2 sons
(3) Jane Wheat b Jul 5 1798 in Bedford, m James Overstreet, Mar 12, 1827, Bedford
(4) Forest Davis Wheat, b Dec 18 1800 Bedford, d Aug 1864, m Jane Dooley Oct 3, 1825 in Bedford
(5) Mary Polly Wheat b Nov 20 1803 in Bedford, d Nov 1880, m Barnett Austin Watson on Dec 19 1826 in Bedford. They had 4 sons and 3 daughters
(6) Hazael Wheat b Apr 27 1806 in Bedford, m Eliza Mildred Tinsley on Sept 26 1833 in Bedford Co. They had 5 sons and 4 daughters
(7) Lydia Chastain Wheat, b Mar 28 1809, Bedford, m Cyrus Sharp on Oct 3 1825 in Bedford Co.
(8) Zachariah Joseph (listed above)
(9) Elizabeth Logwood Wheat, b Apr 22 1813, Bedford, m James Chapel Jennings
on Mar 21 1825 in Bedford
(10) Edith Rebecca Wheat, b Dec 27 1814, Bedford, m Robert R Logwood, July 2 1841 in Bedford
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Continuing on with Milton Davis Milam and Mary Louisa Wheat
married between 1863-1865 in Bedford Co.
Parents of 12 children:
(1) Fred Chastain Milam, b Jul 3 1865 in Bedford Co, d Aug 31 1940 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co, California. He was a carpenter and is buried in the Inglewood Park Cemetery in Los Angeles. He married Caroline Johnson, a native of Indiana, on Jul 3 1890 in Jackson County, Missouri. They had the following
children:
....A. Milton b Jul 1890 in MO
....B. Nelly b Jul 1892 in MO
....C. Earl Clifton, b Mar 24, 1895 in MO, d May 18, 1959 in Los Angeles, CA; buried in Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery, San Diego, CA, married Minnie Marie Markham, (date unknown). Divorced 1936. Returned from War, shell-shocked.
If you want his descendant info, let me know. He had 3 daughters and 1 son.
....D. Fred, b Jan 1898 in MO
....E. Myrtle, b May 1899, in MO
....F. Ida, b 1902 in MO
....G. Leslie, b Feb 24, 1905 d Feb 1975 in CA
....H. Bulah, b Jan 1910 in MO, m ? Nankervis
(2) Otis Eugene Milam, b Aug 31, 1866 in MO, d Aug 13 1906, m Lula Smith on Oct 3, 1893 in Jackson Co, MO
(3) Robert Wheat Milam, b Jan 6 1869 in MO, died Jan 27, 1948
(4) Louis Walter Milam ( this is your line)
(5) Mattie Belle Milam, b Apr 7 1872 in MO, d aft 1937, m John Henry Brents on Sept 15, 1892 in Jackson Co, MO
(6) Cary Cornelius Milam, b Jul 13 1873 in MO, d Jul 10, 1951
(7) Jesse James Milam, b Apr 8 1875 in MO, d Aug 4 1937 in Jackson Co, MO, married Clara Fannie Gibson and had the following children:
.....A. Helen m ? Green
.....B. Clara Louise m ? Cogan
.....C. Jesse Lee, b Oct 24, 1902
.....D. Frank Andrew, b Feb 7 1904 d Jan 1977 in MO
.....E. Edna Juanita b Oct 19 1916, m ? Linden
.....F. Willard J, b Aug 7 1919, d Oct 22 1982
.....G. Avis Vernon, b Feb 28 1922, d Jan 1986
.....H. Opal Frances, b Jun 12 1924
(8) Ana Clemetine Milam, b Nov 5 1876 in MO, m ? Spencer
(9) Willie Milam, b Apr 1 1877, d May 3 1877
(10) Lily May Milam, b Nov 16, 1880, Jackson Co, MO, d Apr 14, 1921
(11) Bert Stuart Milam, b Apr 27 1884 in MO
(12) Milton Davis, Jr, b Nov 16 1887, MO, d Dec 17 1951
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
This is all that I have on the Milam line. I would truly love to have any details that you can add. I'm sure this is much more information that you bargained for on the Wilkerson and Wheat lines, but I thought that you would
like to have it. Let me know if I can help you in any other way. I began working on this line early in my genealogy hobby and was negligent in recording my sources. I had made contact with several others who had given me
this info but I did not record their names. There is someone who belongs to the Bedford Co VA mailing list who is researching the Wheat and Chastain lines. A post to this list may lead you to them: VABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com
Look forward to hearing from you
Brenda Marble

Subject:[MILAM-L] medals
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998
From: "R. Ludwig" <rludwig@tusco.net>
To: MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

http://members.aol.com/stevecunni/wv7thcav/medals.html

I had to dig a bit for this.

Janice Milam L.

Subject:[MILAM-L] MILAM Census Information
Date:Tue, 28 Apr 1998
From: BMarble <BMarble@aol.com>
To:MILAM-L@rootsweb.com

1810 Virginia Census

MILAM, Micajah Bedford Co pg 474
00101-12001-00

MILAM, Simeon Kanawha Co pg 213
10010-10010-00

MILLAN, John Fairfax Co pg 209
01010-00001-13

MILLAN, Thomas Fairfax Co pg 208
13101-11000-09

MILLAN, William Fairfax C pg 211
30010-21011-05

1810 Virginia Census

MILAM, Micajah Bedford Co pg 474
00101-12001-00

MILAM, Simeon Kanawha Co pg 213
10010-10010-00

MILLAN, John Fairfax Co pg 209
01010-00001-13

MILLAN, Thomas Fairfax Co pg 208
13101-11000-09

MILLAN, William Fairfax C pg 211
30010-21011-05

1820 Virginia Census Index

MILAM, Benjamin         Bedf    pg 043
MILAM, Harris                 Hali            pg 070
MILAM, Jacob                  Lee             pg 133
MILAM, James                 Taze       pg 253
MILAM, John                     Taze    pg 252
MILAM, John                     Hali          pg 066
MILAM, Moses                 Kana       pg 008
MILAM, Simeon                Kana       pg 008
MILAM, Solomon          Bedf    pg 044
MILAM, Solomon          Taze    pg 253
MILAM, Walter                  Lee      pg 133
MILAM, Zachariah, Jr    Bedf    pg 044
MILAN, Charles                Bedf      pg 043
MILAN, Zachariah                Bedf    pg 043
MILLAN, Estatia         Fari          pg 055
MILLAN, George          Fari          pg 057
MILLAN, John                  Fari            pg 057
MILLAN, Lyle                    Kana    pg 008
MILLAN, Thomas          Fari          pg 060
MILLAN, William         Rock    pg 289

1830 Virginia Census Index

MILAM, Harris                  Hali     pg 418
MILAM, Henry                   Bedf     pg 154
MILAM, John                     Loga    pg 280
MILAM, Margaret         Loga    pg 280
MILAM, Moses                  Kana      pg 202
MILAM, Simeon                 Kana      pg 203
MILAM, Solomon          Mont    pg 081
MILAM, Solomon          Tase    pg 209
MILAM, Thomas           Bedf    pg 125
MILAM, William                Gile      pg 229
MILAN, James                  Loga      pg 279
MILAN, William                Wash      pg 273
MILAN, William                Pitt            pg 412
MILARN, Benjamin                Bedf    pg 144
MILLAM, John                  Bedf      pg 157
MILLAN, George          Nort    pg 235
MILLAN, Henry T         Nort    pg 233
MILLAN, James                 Nort      pg 262
MILLAN, Lyle                    Kana    pg 201
MILLAN, Stacy                 Nort      pg 257

1850 Virginia Census Index

I will not list townships on this listing as they are not legible on my copy

MILAHAM, William                Lee     pg 369
MILAM, Allen                    Pitt          pg 155
MILAM, Benjamin E               Kana    pg 085
MILAM, Dicey                  Bedf      pg 168
MILAM, James W          Pitt          pg 116
MILAM, John                     Kana    pg 079
MILAM, John K                 Putn      pg 268
MILAM, Lindsey          Kana    pg 126
MILAM, Mary                     Pitt          pg 127
MILAM, Moses                  Kana      pg 129
MILAM, Rachel                 Kana      pg 079
MILAM, Simeon                 Kana      pg 080
MILAM, William                Kana      pg 079
MILAM, William H                Kana    pg 126
MILAN, Harrison         Hali          pg 086
MILAN, John                     Hali          pg 086
MILAN, Margaret         Rale    pg 007
MILAN, Mary                     Hali          pg 084
MILAN, Robert                 Gile      pg 383
MILAN, William                Berk      pg 349
MILANE, Henry                 Meck      pg 126
MILANN, Mattha          Hali          pg 086
MILLAM, Benjamin M      Rbrg    pg 365
MILLAM, Francis         Culp    pg 278
MILLAM, James P         Pitt          pg 176
MILLAN, Ann                     Fair          pg 196
MILLAN, Ann                     Alex    pg 384
MILLAN, George M                Fair          pg 122
MILLAN, George W                Fair          pg 194
MILLAN, James P         Fair          pg 132
MILLAN, Lyle                    Rapp    pg 113
MILLAND, Henry          Culp    pg 221

1850 Virginia Census Index

I will not list townships on this listing as they are not legible on my copy

1850 Indiana Census Index

MILAM, Almira                      Monr Co   pg 223     Blooming
MILAM, Beaufat                     Dear Co    pg 456    Sparta Twp
MILAM, Francis W                     Gree Co    pg 389 Washington
MILAM, George                      Gree Co    pg 313    Richland
MILAM, George                      Owen Co pg 062      Clay Twp
MILAM, George                      Owen Co pg 072      Clay Twp
MILAM, Geroge                      Monr Co   pg 293     Blooming
MILAM, Harry                       Sull Co      pg 292 Gill Twp
MILAM, Henry                       Sull Co         pg 247       Hamilton
MILAM, Hiram                       Sull Co     pg 231   Haddin Twp
MILAM, Jarvis                        Sull Co     pg 323 Turman Twp
MILAM, John                          Sull Co     pg 298      Gill Twp
MILAM, John                          Gree Co   pg 315   Richland
MILAM, John                          Dear Co   pg 456         Sparta Twp
MILAM, Margaret              Foun Co   pg 021   Fulton Twp
MILAM, Mary E                      Foun Co   pg 017     Fulton Twp
MILAM, Miller                     Sull Co          pg 219       Hadden Twp
MILAM, Nancy                      Knox Co    pg 206     61st Dist
MILAM, Obadiah              Sull Co     pg 296        Gill Twp
MILAM, Thomas              Owen Co    pg 063    Clay Twp
MILAM, William                   Knox Co    pg 206            61st Dist
MILAM, William                   Gree Co   pg 325             Richland
MILAM, William                   Floy Co    pg 335            New Alba
MILAMA, Sister                   Vigc Co   pg 214             Sugar Cr
MILAN, George                    Dear Co   pg 298             Miller Twp
MILAN, Mary                        Jeff Co     pg 057         Madison
MILAN, Patrick                   Jeff Co     pg 071           Madison
MILAN, Philan                      Alle Co    pg 189          Marion Twp
MILAN, Stephen             Sull Co    pg 247          Hamilton
MILAND, Martin                   Alle Co   pg 189             Marion Twp
MILANE, Elijah                 Sull Co   pg 223       Hadden Twp
MILANE, George B                   Sull Co    pg 206          Hadden Twp
MILANE, Sarah                    Sull Co    pg 253            Hamilton
MILANN, R A                      Owen Co pg 004       Gosport

County names are abbreviated.
Brenda Marble

1870 Missouri Census Index

MILAIN, Benjamin                      Macon Co pg 144 Liberty Twp
MILAIN, Soloman, Jr             Macon Co        pg 144 Liberty Twp
MILAIN, Solomon               Macon Co pg 144 Liberty Twp
MILAIN, Virginia                            Macon Co    pg 144 Liberty Twp
MILAIN, James                       Shelby Co   pg 003 Bethel Twp
MILAM, John                           Shelby Co pg 128 Tiger Fork Twp
MILAM, John                           Montgomery pg 105 Upper Loutre
MILAM, Rachel                       Andrew Co   pg 300 Platte Twp
MILAM, William                      Marion Co   pg 504 1 W Hannibal
MILAN, Benjamin               Macon Co pg 144 Liberty Twp
MILAN, Buse                           Macon Co pg 145 Liberty Twp
MILAN, James                        Montgomery pg 133   Upper Loutre
MILAN, John                           Shelby Co pg 128 Tiger Fork Twp
MILAN, Joseph B               Macon Co pg 144 Liberty Twp
MILAN, Michael                      Marion Co   pg 588 4 W Hannibal
MILAN, Patrick                      Marion Co   pg 489 1 W Hannibal
MILAN, Pauline                      Audrain Co pg 604 Salt River Twp
MILAN, Richard                      Marion Co   pg 504 1 W Hannibal
MILAN, Robeert W                      Chariton Co       pg 315 Twp 53 Bruns
MILAN, Thomas                       Ralls Co    pg 048 Jasper Twp
MILEHAM, John D               Chariton Co       pg 356 Twp 56 Bruns

MILAM, Marin                        Cape Gira   pg 212 Welch Twp
MILAM, Martin                       Cass Co     pg 497 Austin Twp
MILAM, Mary                           Cass Co   pg 605 Grand River
MILAM, Rachel                       Cooper Co   pg 465 Lebanon Twp
MILAM, Rachel, Jr                     Cooper Co pg 465 Lebanon Twp
MILAM, Rush                           Cooper Co pg 463 Lebanon Twp
MILAM, Rush, Jr               Cooper Co pg 463 Lebanon Twp
MILAN, Benjamin               Johnson Co        pg 571 Post Oak Twp
MILAN, Henry                       Greene Co    pg 053 Campbell Twp
MILAN, W. B                           Saline Co pg 230 Miami Twp
MILLAN, Elizabeth                     Laclede Co        pg 003 Gasconade Twp

I am missing the Jackson Co/St Louis Index listings for 1870
Brenda Marble
BMarble@aol.com

1860 INDIANA Census Index

MILAM, A S              age 21 b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 827
MILAM, Adaline        age 27    b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 806
MILAM, Alice            age 04 b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 836
MILAM, Andrew         age 30    b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 836
MILAM, Andrew         age 12    b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 804
MILAM, Anette         age 12    b OH    Floyd Co              pg 381
MILAM, Ann L          age 39    b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 724
MILAM, Anna             age 44 b VA    Noble Co              pg 168
MILAM, Anna L         age 04    b IN    Monroe Co             pg 652
MILAM, Annie B age 18 b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 724
MILAM, Benj             age 01 b IN    Bartholomew     pg 448
MILAM, Bluford        age 43    b VA    Bartholomew     pg 458
MILAM, Bluford        age 07    b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 726
MILAM, Bridget        age 24    b IR    Floyd Co              pg 381
MILAM, Caroline age 24 b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 824
MILAM, Celesta        age 10    b IN    Bartholomew     pg 458
MILAM, Charles R        age 6m b IN    Bartholomew     pg 458
MILAM, Charles T        age 05 b IN    Sullivan Co           pg 724
MILAM, Clara A        age 02    b IN    Clark Co              pg 002
MILAM, Elijah           age 51 b KY    Sullivan Co           pg 724
MILAM, Elijah           age 21 b IN    Sullivan Cp &nbs